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By PDXHiker on 07/16/2011  20:42

Quote by: 'RachelP'
We're supposed to start 8/2... I spoke to a ranger yesterday who said "it will be close." He said it really depends on how many people make it over the next two weeks.... so we're still hopeful.


Our permits start on 8/5, and I think we're just going to plan something else this year.  The trails still sound dangerous, and 10' is a lot to melt out over three weeks.   We're thinking about maybe the Trinity Alps in California or the Seven Devils Loop in Idaho.




PDXHiker



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By jgoss4 on 07/13/2011  12:56

Well, due to the lack of great hikes we have decided we are just going to go to yellowstone for awhile. We are kinda just going to wing it... throw on our packs, and head in. We have never really seen much of yellowstone so it should be good.

And honestly right now, work is wearing me down so much, I don't care where I go anymore, as long as it is somewhere. haha




jgoss4



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By RachelP on 07/12/2011  18:25

We're supposed to start 8/2... I spoke to a ranger yesterday who said "it will be close." He said it really depends on how many people make it over the next two weeks.... so we're still hopeful.




RachelP



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By acahay on 07/08/2011  20:45

Quote by: 'Mark&Laura'
Remember: We still have our health and Rainier will still be there.

Laura 


You are so right Laura. I am sorry that you and Mark had to postpone your wonderland trail this year. It happened to us two years ago. We were there for two days and we got cold rained out...I mean RAINED out where our party got hypodermic and we had to ditch the treck.

This year our permit starts on August 12, I hope that by then the snow will be a bit more friendlier with the trekkers. I will keep you guys posted.

Forrester, you are a gem! Thanks for telling me that Laura has also given me some hints here. Beiing a new I get lost in this fori.

jgoss4, sorry no help here. Like Laura said, we, in the PNW are just barried in the snow in the higher altitude. I have hiked the Grand Titon base successfully in July before with our two little kids, but then again, I have NOT checked how much snow they got this year.

Laura and Mark, Machupichu, how fun! our next destination. We had done Torres del Paine in Chile and some souther treks in Argentina, but no Peru!! Keep us posted!

Off ot shop for some rain gear! I still am hopeful for our trek.




acahay



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By Mark&Laura on 07/08/2011  11:04

Jgoss~~~~ We broke out our JMT maps and outlined our route. It will be great once we get out there, but we are still disappointed in the fact that our food cache isn't going up to Rainier. We can't complain given that we have a plan B. The JMT is an awesome trail and a workout.

The airline gives vouchers, so we're going to save that towards a trip to Alaska (maybe next spring).

As for you................... I'm not sure what is available. I briefly looked at Glacier National Park (I want to get there some day). They seem to be reporting the same problem.............SNOW. Some areas in the front country were snow free, but the back country is still deep with snow. I'm guessing you want to backpack the back country. Overall, I think Washington & Montana (given the northern latitude) are going to have too much snow. Our trip to the Sierras is going to be sketchy is a couple places given some passes are over 11K & 12K. Snow is at 10K, so we'll have our work cut out for us.

Good luck. I hope you and your friends find something. You may have to settle with car camping and just hiking around. No matter what happens.............enjoy your time off.

Remember: We still have our health and Rainier will still be there.

Laura 




Mark&Laura



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By jgoss4 on 07/07/2011  14:32

It really does suck. Since my group is dealing with military leave and the such, we need a substitute as well. We were looking in the olympic park, but they are also dealing with a lot of snow about 3500ft. Anyone have any ideas we can do starting July 18 in either Montana (where part of our group is stationed), or washington?

A little snow isn't bad, heck, i can deal with a lot of snow. I just don't want the entire trip to be in 10 feet of snow.




jgoss4



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By Mark&Laura on 07/07/2011  13:46

(Sad)

UGH!!!!

We have been feeling this news would come. We are disappointed to hear this and yet not totally surprised. Mark & I are only one week behind you. If the rangers don't suggest you go then the same probably goes for us. Part of us keep hoping the snow will thaw, but we know the reality of it all. As bad as we want this trip (airfare already paid), we also don't want to end up on the show "I Shouldn't Be Alive".   Mt Rainier isn't going to disappear.

Mark & I are looking into our Plan B--------John Muir Trail (JMT). We already have permits We put in for them back in February just in case our Wonderland Trail permits were declined. We hiked 70 miles of JMT last summer, so we may just pick up from where we left off and go another 70 miles. The JMT is beautiful & we love the back country, so that is looking like our plan right now.

If for some reason the airline doesn't give us a voucher then perhaps we'll fly up and car camp Rainier or play around in the area. Wonderland Trail will have to wait a couple years. Next summer we are getting married and going to Machu Picchu (Peru).

UGH!!!!!!!

Laura 




Mark&Laura



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By jgoss4 on 07/06/2011  17:59

I spoke with a ranger today and he pretty much told me this: don't do it.

He said you won't be successful until mid august at the earliest. He told me that nobody... ranger or regular backpacker has made it more that one day, and even then, they did not reach their first camp. Not looking good at all.




jgoss4



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By Mark&Laura on 07/05/2011  19:07

Acahay~~~~ I love my rain gear. However, what works for one person may not work for another.

My jacket is Marmot (Gore-Tex). It has zippers under the armpits that allow me more ventalation if needed. This feature is important to me especially in warm/humid conditions. Mark's jacket is similar, but his is Mountain Hardwear (Gore-Tex). Either jacket is nice and works well. My jacket is red which is nice for Mark when trying to find me, but not so great when I try to disappear and do my "business" .

My pants are also Marmot. They zip down all the way on both sides. This makes it a lot easier to put them on or take them off. Mark & I backpack in the High Sierras where the weather can change at any given hour. I am able to put my rain gear on in 2  minutes without taking off my boots. This feature is important to me, but you need to shop around and find what you like. Note: unzip only one side to do your "business". If you undo both sides then it can be entertaining putting yourself back together again (especially in the wind & rain).  

You can find this gear at REI.

I hope this helps.

Laura 




Mark&Laura



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By Mark&Laura on 07/05/2011  17:52

Jgoss4---- We are watching the reports hoping the snow thaws in time for our journey around. The west side of the mountain still looks to have deep snow. We won't get over there till July 30th, thus hoping it will have thawed. We are avid snow campers & have the proper gear (sleeping in the snow doesn't bother us). However, if the trail is under snow then that's a problem. We don't want to pack our snowshoes (ugh...........more weight) or get lost  . Does anyone know how the actual trail looks along the western side (Devil's Dream to Mowich)????? If the camps are under 10 ft, then the trail must be under snow as well..........

Thanks wallabee. Mark found a site that had GPS coordinates for the WT. We will still check out your site. Given that part of the trail us under snow we are going to need our GPS.

Mark & I are still committed to this trip (or should be committed---he he he). It is going to be challenging, but a wonderful experience.




Mark&Laura



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By jgoss4 on 07/05/2011  16:09

Man, i don't think we are going to be able to do it. Way too much snow for this late in the year. Really sucks. I hear some camps are still 10 feet under...

http://www.nps.gov/mora/planyourvisit/trails-and-backcountry-camp-conditions.htm




jgoss4



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By acahay on 07/01/2011  21:53

 Mark and Laura, we will be looking forward to your experience report before we start the adventure.

We are looking forward to our trek...a bit nervous!!!!

What are you packing for food???




acahay



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By wallabee on 06/27/2011  18:32

I found a nice kml overlay of the Wonderland trail at http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showthreaded&Number=606037&site_id=1#import

You can load this into the Google Earth application, and then click anywhere along the trail to get GPS coordinates.




wallabee



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By Mark&Laura on 06/21/2011  20:03

We're NEW to join all the fun! Mark & I are really excited for this trip. We have been reading all of the messages..........getting more excited. Here is our schedule:

7/24   Sunrise to Summerland
7/25   Indian Bar
7/26   Nickel Creek
7/27   Maple Creek
7/28   Paradise River
7/29   Pyramid Creek
7/30   Devil's Dream
7/31   Klapatche Park
8/1     (Zero Day--Klapatche)
8/2    Golden Lakes
8/3    Mowich Lake
8/4    Carbon River
8/5    Mystic Camp
8/6    Sunrise

I think we are going to cross paths with jgoss4. You will be heading to Sunrise as we head to Summerland. Look for us. If it's raining (hehehe) I will be wearing a bright red waterproof jacket. You can't miss me. We'll also be full of energy.......and smelling fresh & clean given it's our first day out.

Also, does anyone have GPS points for these campsites???? Or a way we can go about getting them????

Mark & Laura




Mark&Laura



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By acahay on 06/12/2011  10:09

 New here, but I too am planning to hike this marvelous trail. We are starting on Ag. 12th. We are very excited about the trek.

Now I have a question to you all about rain gear. I am looking for a good rain jacket and pants that is waterproof, breathable, and windproof. Any suggestion?




acahay



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By thansen on 05/17/2011  10:16

You can hike this trail in 5-6 days if you are VERY fit and willing to be on the trail most of the day.  I'm not big on hanging around camp and feel much better just putting on miles. I completed 3 legs (approx 56 miles) in 3 days and have also done several one-way 16-18 mile days (w/day pack only).  Besides fitness level and snow the only other slow-down factors are weather (rain) and pack weight.  The snow is quite deep this year so you may encounter a lot of snow still in mid-July, this is what happened to us a couple years ago ('08 I think) and we ended up scrapping our plans for a year with less snow and pushing our hike to the end of July. 




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By jgoss4 on 05/11/2011  20:02

Yeah, last year I did the entire west side of the mountain (mowich to Longmire) from July 12-14 and battled with a ton of snow. It made it difficult, especially with taking such big milage each day. One thing I really did enjoy was the lack of people. The entire first day we didn't come across one person. The rest of the trip we saw a few, but the majority were in the Longmire/Paradise area.

I was hoping to avoid that snow this year, but looks like I won't. Ohwell, it makes it interesting.

And yes, training sucks so far. haha. I have just been going to the gym and hitting the treadmill. Its better than nothing I guess.




jgoss4



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By PDXHiker on 05/09/2011  08:33

Congrats!  Wow, your dates are early.  I'll be very eager to hear your trail report when you get back.  What a year, huh?  It's making training darned difficult.




PDXHiker



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By jgoss4 on 05/08/2011  17:52

Finally got an itenerary. My first one was denied, so I made a second one and left a big gap of desired start time so they could find something that would work.

7/18-Paul Peak Trail head to Golden Lakes Camp
7/19-Klapatche Park Camp
7/20-Devil's Dream Camp
7/21-Paradise River Camp
7/22-Maple Creek Camp (wanted Nickel Creek, but got this instead)
7/23-Summerland Camp (Long day from maple creek to summerland)
7/24-Sunrise Walk in camp
7/25-Mystic Camp
7/26-Carbon River Camp
7/27-Paul Peak Trail head, exit




jgoss4



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By D-Money on 04/24/2011  13:27

Got mine a couple of weeks back, and cant wait to go. Gunna be leaving out on 8/30 for 11 days starting out at Longmire with a couple of friends. It's our first time to the WT and I the excitment is killing me. cant wait to hear from you all on how the trip went.




D-Money



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By RachelP on 04/21/2011  12:17

Ironically, we're basically going to be shadowing you and arriving at each of your camps one day after you! So, unless you have a very late morning and we have a very fast day (unlikely) I don't think our paths will cross. Too bad :( Looks like you have a great itinerary, though. We're planning to do the Spray Park piece too.




RachelP



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By PDXHiker on 04/20/2011  19:36

jgoss4 - They say it can take six weeks to process all the applications, so I guess I wouldn't get too worried about it until May 1.  Good luck!

Rachel - Yay! Congrats! 

Our permit says:

8/6: Longmire to Devil's Dream
8/7: D.Dream to S. Puyallup
8/8: S. Puyallup to Klapatche
8/9: Klapatche to Golden Lake
8/10: Golden Lakes to Mowich
8/11: Day hike to Spray Park
8/12: Mowich to Dick Creek
8/13: Dick Creek to Granite Creek
8/14: Granite Creek to White River
8/15: White River to Summerland
8/16: Summerland to Indian Bar
8/17: Indian Bar to Maple Creek
8/18: Maple Creek to Longmire

Will our paths cross at all?




PDXHiker



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By jgoss4 on 04/20/2011  13:18

I still have not recieved my permit that I sent in on March 15. Should I be worried? It was for July 24-August 2




jgoss4



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By RachelP on 04/19/2011  21:25

August 2nd... headed clockwise from Frying Creek Trailhead.... we're doing it in a nice slow 14 days since it will be me, my husband, and my mom. I can't WAIT!! How'd your itinerary look?




RachelP



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By PDXHiker on 04/15/2011  19:45

Nurse4Rocks - How do you feel about Craigslist?  Maybe you could advertise for a college student in the Seattle area who would pick you up at the airport & drive you to the park for less than a rental? 

Have you checked out the options here:  http://www.visitrainier.com/pg/transportation/Transportation-Options-to-Mt-Rainier-National-Park?  Maybe the park staff have a suggestion?  Finally, you may try posting on lots & lots of sites to see if anyone else from the Seattle area is going up the same time you are.  Good luck!

Rachel - What's your start date?

Rexryman - I wouldn't give up hope yet.  Their web site says it takes six weeks to process the permits.




PDXHiker



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By erlall on 04/14/2011  16:07

Nurse4rocks:

Perhaps an option would be to take a shuttle to the Best Western in Puyallup (those are inexpensive) and then perhaps stay there a night.  Then pay a cab to take you to Rainier.  Definately less than $700......heck, they may even have a connection to a tour company who might be able to take you.

just an option.




erlall



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By RachelP on 04/14/2011  10:45

I don't have any great ideas about getting there from the airport, unfortunately... I live in Seattle so will just be driving. If I learn of any shuttles, etc. I'll definitely let you know!

Rexryman: sorry no luck so far :( I'll keep my fingers crossed you still hear back, or that you get your first-come first-serve permit!!




RachelP



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By rexryman on 04/13/2011  22:13

well its lookin like all you you got your permits...i dont think i am going to :(
but oh well change of plans anyway!

im thinking i will go for the "first come permit" in the end of july.

I kinda want to go for like a 10 day by myself... i break from the world!




rexryman



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By nurse4rocks on 04/13/2011  04:17

I received my permit to start August 5th from Longmire going clockwise over 12 days. Now, I just hope I will be ready for the physical challange. Even more challanging is finding transportation from the airport to the park.   I checked into a rental car- the cheapest , ended  up about  $700, crive to the park and then sit there for 2 weeks and drive back to the airport. Any ideas on transportation from the airport?




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